Talks continued yesterday but progress was limited this weekend. We’ve been trying to move forward with urgency on changes to our delivery model that would provide weekend delivery and more flexible staffing during the week.
The union has been focused for the last 24 hours on workers they don’t represent — like hiring away the cleaning staff from our contracted cleaning service and making them full-time Canada Post employees and pushing back on any changes to the pay and benefits of people we’ll hire in the future.
Canada Post has lost more than $3 billion since 2018 and just posted a $315 million loss before tax in the third quarter of 2024.
To help secure the future of the company and grow our parcel business, Canada Post has put forward proposals to offer seven-day-a-week parcel delivery and other important improvements. This new delivery model is essential for the future of the company, and critical to our ability to afford the offers.
For current employees, Canada Post has focused on protecting and enhancing what’s important to them – competitive wage increases (11.5% over four years), more paid leave, while protecting the defined benefit pension and job security provisions.
Delivery is a labour-intensive business, with labour and benefits consuming over 70 per cent of revenues at Canada Post in 2023. Labour costs rose by $242 million in 2023, or about 6.5 per cent, compared to 2022.
CUPW’s national strike is now in day 10 and the impacts on the company and the country are mounting. With the postal system effectively shut down by the strike for a week and a half, we are down millions of parcels and entering the busy Black Friday online shopping week effectively shut down.
Beyond the impact on Canada Post, the ripple effects of the national strike across the country are having a major impact on small businesses, charities and remote communities.
We remain committed to reaching new agreements at the bargaining table.
With an increase of 800$ on the grocery bill next year, do you seriously think the issues there are not what most of the country is experiencing at some level. Not the time to play on people right now.
Re align and create all new positions. This eliminates all existing positions. Lay everybody off. Start fresh and watch the jaws drop.
Just keep using other competitors so we can finally make this union irrelevant. Then we can see the real complaining when there isn’t a job to go back to.
Canada Post strike is injustice to the people of Canada. I want them to compare their wages with other Canadians. And think twice why they should continue with strike.
Canadians should learn a lesson and teach them a lesson by not opting Canada Post Services. Earlier 2010 Canada Post was called dieng industry. They got significant pay rise still they are unhappy.
They will remain unhappy, even if they are given more.
My message is simple for Unions Organizations such as it was good 120 years ago right after the first WW. For many needed good solid jobs with fair wages so it was organized to enforce the rules keeping a job.
But today living in the 21st century Unions shouldn’t exist for any jobs in Canada 🇨🇦. I worked 35 years without being part of Unions and I made it well to reach 65 years old. So Canada 🇨🇦 please STOP 🛑 the nonsense at once. Thank you 🙏
Please, please. I live in a rural area and need my compounded medication mailed to me from the closest compounding pharmacy 1 1/2 hours away. Having it delivered via Purolator is too expensive. I also wanted to receive my credit refund check I am getting because I was energy smart from BC Hydro. They said they’re not set up for doing that via direct deposit but that’s how I paid them each month? They won’t cancel the
mailed one and courier a new one either. I was going to use that for my son for Christmas.. really. I do understand what you are trying to do but please why couldn’t you of waited until after the holidays.
I am not a fan of unions and this proves my point of unions are a thing of the past in today’s world. I lost my job to a local Telecom meddling in private contractor workers working for a contractor company that was working for the company that was also doing work for the company that had their workers working for that company so they brainwashed enough of our guys that they got them to certify as a union which resulted in us losing the contract and 200 people losing their jobs. But joke was on them. We had done such a good job that the Telecom company liked how it all worked out. So much that They decided to stop hiring employees and contract out the work from that point on and since that happened, they’ve been able to complete their projects far faster and under budget.
I also had an experience with a friend of ours who owned the hotel and the union went on strike for a month and unfortunately due to a majority of the workers being Filipino they did not understand that they had the right to not vote to go on strike. The union badgered them into voting to vote to go on strike, but as soon as they returned to work after not getting anything they wanted someone found out that they could vote to decertify and now they are the only hotel in town that is not unionized and they are the happiest employees and other employees from other hotels are begging to come to work for him. But he actually isn’t able to hire anymore because he already has so many good staff who don’t want to leave and as long as he keeps them happy they will never unionize ever again
In my opinion, Canada Post should start contracting out the majority of their work and if employees are smart they will self-decertify and once over The majority have decertified the entirety of Canada Post will no longer be unionized and subject to being forced to walk off the job. If you’re not happy with your job, go get a job somewhere else that you’ll be happy at
I understand that sometimes it is z thankless job working for Canada Post and that the working conditions are not ideal. I understand that the pay sucks and so do the benefits. Upon saying that, no job is ideal, but we still go to work everyday. If I tried to strike at my job, I would get fired, period. Customers depend on me to do my job. Customers depend on Canada Post to get their mail and their paychecks sometimes if they don’t have direct deposit. They are complaining about losing money but yet they are striking at the busiest time of year when they make the most money. It’s not about the getting of cards and packages, it’s about giving to family and loved ones that irks me. Please, please get back to work. We as Customers depend on you
There is a flaw in the CP statement that the union ” hires away contractor employees and makes them full time CP employees” . When did the union gain the power to create new employees as if the union were part of CP management? This would put the union in a conflict of interest position, as being both labor reps and employer.
Are the union and CP employees too stupid to realize they’re running the company into the ground? Transitioning costs, money and how do you expect them to transition if they’re constantly meeting the demands of mobster unions that take countries hostage when they don’t get their way? $23/hour starting wage that pales in comparison to its competitor’s salaries. If you don’t like it, go work somewhere else but I can guarantee you, you’re not going to get the same wage and benefits as you’re getting now. They think because it’s federally run that they’re special and deserve more money, well you’re not. You’re not saving lives, you’re delivering papers and packages. That’s all we need is another company in this country that taxpayers need to support and bail out. It’s almost to the point where you need to part it out, privatize and be done with it. Greedy unions and employees will make sure that this happens especially the way they’re going.
I am fine with the strick but bad timing should be after Holidays or way before
Get back to work because you are causing problems for the older people and for me personally my check’s from work are not coming in and other payments for different companies 2
So please make it fast and start delivering unless I will have to take other measures for post Canada to pay my bills and rent
Thank you
If you guys won’t get what you want just look for another job
Thank you
Lol it’s not every year. No one signs a one year contract. You all need to back up your fellow Canadians. We all need more pay with all the inflation and the people need to do this.
SUPPORT THE PEOPLE
Get them back to work! This is literally stupidity !
There’s so many people that are out of work, trying to figure out ways to to provide for their families and so much homelessness and they have the gull to complain..give their jobs to to people who are willing to work and be thankful because they’re able too pay bills and food on the table !!!!😡
With the economy is right now, they should all be lucky they have jobs. All essential services should not be allowed to strike in my opinion.
Absuletly true
Underworked you say? Have you ever worked at Canada post?….I have….in -50 with grips on my boots, blizzards, 5 layers of clothes, I don’t think I could barely see through my fogged eyeglasses. My fingers stuck to the metal on the mailbox , only to have fallen and smashed my head in efforts to deliver your mail. Don’t judge a book by its cover blah blah blah. This strike makes me realize how much we do actually do, and we work our asses off in all kinds of weather!! So please don’t devalue us and know what we do while you sit in your living room waiting for your parcel…Think again…
Canada Post employees always want and have no idea where the money is coming from. The employees butter watch out or Canada Post will no longer be. Germany and the UK no have privatized postal delivery. I think Canada Post should consider the same thing. Then what are the postal worker going to do when they don’t have a job.
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You no at the end of the day in this new world of shopping and delivery options I feel Canada post is over paid and under worked if they don’t soon realize this I’m afraid Canada post will be no more
Be fortunate you have a job, get back to work we are all struggling for lords sakes , spoiled children.
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The company runs itself into the ground with bad mismanagement and wasted funds. Investing in a new facility and a fleet of new vehicles is not revenue loss. They seem to want to fail.
Just know that the company and the media are only revealing SOME of the facts. The public is not getting the full truth from these corporations. It is up to you if you want to feed into corporate BS. They don’t care about the public or the employees, only money. If we’re going down we have to go down fighting. Solidarity
I doubt you would think that if you delivered the mail in the hot summer sun, freezing icy, snowy sidewalks, the air so cold breathing isn’t easy, dogs charging at you for just trying to do your job. Waiting at front doors after ringing the doorbell 3 times, just to diver the customer their Passport they have been waiting for. None of us can actually judge unless we have done the job.
Over paid where are you coming from some have seen $3 and hour over 20years you better get your facts first
Where do Canada post employees suggest the increase in wages come from if the corporation is losing over $300 million each quarter?
They built a giant factory thats where they say the loss are!
Listen if they don’t get to work and keep striking every like 6 months they should all be fired or held responsible for striking by working 12 to 14 hours a day like some people to get things back on track
educate yourself before you try to spread your own misinformed nonsense. They haven’t been on strike for over 6 years and even then it was a rotating strike so many locations were only on strike for one day from that entire strike.
From the CEO’s GM’s VP’s directors’ superintendants’s manager’s and the rest of corporate managers at C.P.Cs Bonus cheques they all got in March 2024 labelled as at risk pay on their pay stubs
Incredible ignorance and corporate bootlicking shown in these comments. Canada Post is not a private company it’s a public service. Without Canada Post almost every small town across the country would have no reasonably priced package delivery and likely no letter delivery at all. Canada is too big, and too sparsely populated to be able to run a delivery business profitably outside of major population centres. What Canada Post does have is a mandate from the government to service every Canadian, which it happens to do excellently. Mail business has been declining for decades and it’s astounding to see so many people, seemingly lacking basic critical thinking, blame the employees for the management’s inability to expand revenue. The low hanging fruit of postal banking has been there for decades and the management is too lazy or cowardly to come up with a competent plan to bring to their political masters.
Thank you for putting to words my thoughts..it saddens me seeing how many people are against the strikers. They are not asking for something unreasonable, wages the rise with inflation, proper vacation hours, full time work not just part time offers. This is not a huge ask. Do plumbers and electricians expect to have full time employment when they get jobs why should our mail carriers not be given the same right if they want it. Forcing them to stay part time to avoid giving them benefits is despicable behavior. People acting like these good people are striking over nothing need to ask them selfs what living conditions do we want for the every day person in Canada do we want our teachers and our store clerks to need TWO jobs to stay afloat to never have time for their families or enough money in the bank to even think about living more then paycheck to paycheck…that is not a Canada I want.
As a life time member of Union in Alberta, I support the right to strike. But why at Christmas? Canada Postal services is an icon in CANADA. Though I don’t have larger parcels to send , I have several Christmas cards to mail mostly across this Great Nation of ours, plus a few to the United States. Please get back to work and be thankful for the jobs you have. I think most people who work in Post Offices certainly in the city that I live in, want to be working at their counters weighing letters, smaller parcels and those bigger ones as well. I have nothing but respect for the particular Canada Postal outlet workers that I frequent regularly. Please return to work. Thank You
Unbelievable workers get back before you lose everything
They are loosing working you may as well fight.
When I lived in Windsor, the Canada Post work didn’t even bother to knock at the door to deliver my package. She did this everytime I had a box order. She would just drop the slip in the slot and have a note saying no one was home (It was after COVID and I was still unemployed and home 24/7).
I was sitting in the living room, clearly seen her drop off the pick up slip, I ran to the door and with my husband we both confronted the women why she never bothered to knock on the door to drop off the package. She got defensive and ignored answer our questions, got to the back of the van and grabbed the parcel. I thanked her, but my husband wanted an answer. She still deflected and got in the driver seat and nearly drove into my husband while he was still confronting her why she always wrote on the slip and lied that “no one was home”.
It was such an incovience for us to have to drive and get a package the next day (sometimes we would have to wait if it fell on the weekend) to get the packages. Not being employed and having to waste fuel and time when someone is already getting paid to do just that.
Now, it infuriates me that they stike because my friend opened up a small business in NL and most of her orders come through people across Canada ordering her hand dyed floss and fabrics. They do not deserve the same pay grade as those who actually do a better job at door to door deliever. Imagine how much less work they would have to do if the whole mailing system dumped the stupid useless flyers. Have people tick a box or something on whether or not they want the flyers in the first place. Who knows, that might lighten the “load” of mailing delivery.
I’m hoping other courier services take over and start lowering prices so they are on par with canada post. Then we wouldn’t rely on them at all.
Also I was wondering what your friends business’s name is? I live in NL and am looking to make some clothing/accessories for Christmas and would love to check her shop out!
Your remarks should be aimed at just the lousy mail courier you had and not at all couriers who work for canada post. I have a route that I go above and beyond for and get paid just a little over minimum wage. Get your ass out there and do the job yourself. Learn all the shit we deal with on a daily. Come across the rude, self absorbed people who feel they are entitled and owed something and complain no matter what. People on my route are very respectful and kind and know I try my best in all situations. Sounds like you just got a crappy person who doesn’t care about the job. We most definitely deserve to be paid more. They do have a service where you just call the office and tell them you don’t want flyers…..and POOF….no more get delivered by the courier to you. No need to come on here bashing a person, you have an issue then call the 1-800 complaint line and tell them. It then gets sent to a supervisor and in return to the post master. The person then gets reprimanded. See taken care of. Also if you have a loose dog, they don’t have to attempt at all, they just say loose dog and that’s it. Although I would love nothing more then to be back at work, I believe I do deserve some sort of raise since I haven’t had one in 10 years. Also the Corp is where your anger should be over this all since they are the ones getting absurd amounts of pay and huge bonuses and then cry they have no money. Oh and they built a multibillion dollar plant that they never use just not that long ago.
Canada Post will be privatized within 5 years. The competition offers everything the people want including weekend deliveries. Unions are becoming an obsolete beast in today’s environment
Just because you had a bad experience with your carrier does not mean the rest of us are like that. We work hard at our jobs delivering parcels and mail. More than just parcel delivery drivers and they get paid more. Not what I’d call a fair system since Canada post uses gov to help control our wages, no decent wage increase in over 30yrs, can’t wait to retire, as I’m tired of the bs from everyone
Don’t judge an entire company based on the bad actions of one individual! This is a letter carrier not following company policy.
Also there currently IS an option if you don’t want flyers, just leave a kind note for your letter carrier and they will be sure to leave a Red Dot in front of your mailbox signaling no Flyers wanted, problem solved!
Now paying less for parcel shipping through online shipping App. Paying about 20% less than Canada Post with options for UPS & Purolator. If anyone offers lower rates for letter mail then Canada Post is obsolete. Thanks strikers for saving us money! The future is now.
Strategically speaking, the busiest season of the year is the best time for union members to strike. The loss of revenue and an upset public adds pressure on the corporation leadership to quickly come to agreement.
I think that the strike is a warning signal to the bad management of Canada Post that change must occur. Gone are the days of Deepak Chopra defending the size of this management group to the finance committee. Doug Ettinger needs to downsize the ridiculous size of his management group. Two VP’have already put in their notice, but when then are 22 Vice Presidents plus two other companies with the same management structure losing two is nothing in a company drowning in unseasoned management. Also when you let people manage a company that have no experience, then the amount of budget waste goes through the roof. But one thing that is constant in this company is the 5 to 10 percent retention of new hires. People should look at that stat and think how much this company wastes on continuing efforts to train staff that quits in the first year of employment due to low wage and being treated like a slave by arrogant lazy supervisors. Safety is a joke in this company and if you speak out you are bullied by suspensions without pay. Another huge money costing divisive management program. Suspensions have become an issue that cost ridiculous amounts of time and money and are given out like candy by management. The union definitely is the better of the two destructive forces in this argument, but is also to large and needs to be less and streamlined. But this is the first time in twenty years I am hearing actual complaints come out to the public. One complaint I have is three deaths in two depots in ten years at work should be investigated and not blamed on lifestyle choices of the employee. But that’s the management excuse,”it’s always blaming the workers or the union.” change is hard and being forced to change even harder. It takes both sides to come together and prompt changes, but both of these groups have been given that opportunity over the 15 years and still can’t agree on even coming up with a new way to restructure the routes letter carriers follow. Quit blaming the workers when clearly this is a management first problem, then out of touch union, and lastly the workers that just want to do a good job for Canada. The amount of free time forced on the worker to get the job done is over management. While most of our management is on coffee break for at least half of their day.
I remember when I was in university, workers from a ship building company were striking. Management stated publicly that they were on the verge of going bankrupt. Sure enough, the company declared bankruptcy about a year later. Did the workers realize or admit that they had a hand in banktuptingbthe company? Of course not. They all got together and petitioned the government to subsidize the company.
I can just see thus happening with Canada Post. The company has been losing billions of dollars since 2018. If the company goes bankrupt, then all these workers will suddenly be all concerned about the loss of a national icon and demand that the government keep them afloat.
Artificially created high prices of products always create surplus and black markets as high prices encourage production but high prices stifle demand. Artificially created low prices always create shortages as entrepreneurs won’t produce products they make little or no profit from, regardless of demand. (Think the oil crisis of tge 1970’s. People literally DIED because it was not feasible to provide energy to remote, sparsely populated areas where people needed energy to stay warm and live. High prices encourage entrepreneurs to start meeting people’s needs immediately and the price only remains high until there is more competition which quickly happens. Competitors,are mot going to stand around and let only their rivals “make a killing”. Complaining about “price gouging” leads to death in some cases, e.g. Hurricane Katrina.)
It is the same with the price of labour. If a company can only afford X amount of money for labour, higher wages mean fewer people have jobs and/or the comoany will cease to exist. This is economics 101. Union workers don’t care what they do to the employment prospects of other people or taxpayers as long as “they” get what they want, until the company goes bankrupt.
All these stupid comments are from people who have no clue what these mail delivery persons go through, every body complains they went on strike right before christmas again, first of all, they didn’t go on strike by choice, their contract was done for over a year, and CP sent the union an email that they terminated their contrat, so they would hae had to go to work with no insurance of being paid or covered if they hurt themselves, and the last time they went on STRIKE was because CP locked them out, and all this is actual fact because i’m the husband of one of these delivery person whose been a mail delivery for going on 30 years and dealing with all this bullshit, so please get informed before giving your stupid comments
this will only make people want nothing to do with canada post. that’s why the majority are doing this already. can’t rely on canada post as they will do this every year. the government should hire temp workers to deliver while the strike is going on and maybe keep them as they would appreciate the work and pay
Every year? Why would they do that when contracts are 4 years?
2018 they came back November 22th and 2011 they came back June 27th. Can’t tell previous years. Hard to justify your opinion.
They cannot strike every year. Learn your stuff before making yourself look foolish. A contract is every 4 years not yearly so see it’s next to impossible to do it every year. Come on out to one of these meetings and learn about what is really happening and why it is. Because I guarantee the more REAL info you have, the more you’d side with the workers.
union shops don’t normally have those type of workers because it would cause chaos at the picket line
Go back to work ! You guys are over paid !!
You are only listening to the corporations side of greed and cuts. Maybe look at cupw side of the story. We are $6 per hour less than FedEx employees in the same top positions but do more work IMO. If we earned $250000 like the executives do and are still earning we would then be overpaid sir
Then go work for fedex!!
Canada Post has a monopoly on lettermail, charges excessively for packages, and still can’t turn a profit.
Nationalized corporations are inefficient and poorly managed compared to private companies offering similar services.
too much overhead probably
Listen do more work then UPS or FedEx!,give me a break deliver something bigger then an envelope or small box or flyers then you’d be justified in making what they make ,face reality your in a dying business .
They do deliver more than letters and flyer. Try refrigerators, tires, shelving, mattresses, all sorts of crap. They also don’t just drive stop to stop like UPS does and do carry some parcels on foot walks stopping at every address. Give me a break.
Over paid i would like to see you live on there wages .They are way under paided
How much do letter carriers deserve to get paid?
Do you realize Canada Post is the only company allowed to deliver human remains? Would you like it if the employees delivering your passports, important tax documents, medication were paid minimum wage?
I agree with the first comment ! Your all putting Christmas in risk damn near every year it’s ridiculous and if u don’t want to work for can post quit stop ruing Christmas for businesses and consumers ! I hope u do NOT get what ur asking for as what your all doing all the time is just plain blackmail! If government doesn’t do what u say then Canada suffers at Christmas !! It’s bull ! U don’t deserve your demands met you deserve to be fired and hire new competent staff !
I agree with your comment. I can’t even mail out my Christmas cards this year, cause of this stupid strike. The longer they strike the longer it’ll take for Canada Post to get back to normal. The holidays are definitely gonna be ruined by the greedy employees who demand a percentage that’s so outrageous(they’re never gonna get). I’m with you 100% that they should let everyone go and hire those who will accept the last offer they received. FedEx, Purolator and UPS services will increase while this joke of a strike continues.
Totally agree
As legitimate and justified as Canada Post employees’ demands are, hurting people and causing massive amounts of damage is never a good idea. You want us to understand your point of view but do you understand ours? Sure, striking at this time of year is a strategy. I get that. But the damage you are causing far outweighs your demands. Hurting people in untold ways just to get what you want is the very definition of selfishness and greed whether you agree with that or not. One Canada Post employee wrote, right here, that she does want to get back to work and “serve the communities we love”. Well, I remember after the last strike ended, a kind and caring Canada Post employee wrote on some website’s comments section, “You should have supported us during out strike. You will get your package when we feel like sending out”. Ok, this is only one person’s comments. But does it not strike you as rude, selfish, to say nothing of extremely inconsiderate? With the exception of the nice lady who “loves her community”, I have yet to see any consideration from a Canada Post employee. You want your demands met and that’s it! To heck with what you are putting the Canadian people through. That does not matter to you one bit because if it did, your approach would have been far different. Again, greed, selfishness. Wah, wah, wah, give us what we want. We don’t care if our actions cause such massive damage. Just give us what we want. So, go ahead and strike. You can strike for the next ten years if you like. We, the Canadian People, will learn to live without your services. Many of us already have and more will join us. And we will help the small isolated communities you are screwing over and who depend on you for their survival. We can no longer depend on you so we will learn to depend on ourselves. You have lost our trust and you will never get it back.
I’m surprised the corporation has lasted this long
As an employee of Canada Post, I must say that there are more unions than CUPW with Canada Post.
I am one of the non CUPW employees and I, and many others feel this strike is ridiculous.
CUPW, as far as I know are the highest paid employees working for Canada Post and they are wanting more. I wish I made.the wage that they do, I have also been without a contract for over a year, but am honestly just thankful that I still have a job. In my opinion they are striking themselves out of jobs, and it will also effect the other unions with CP however, we will not see any of the benefits they may recieve once this is over, just the negative effects from it.
The ones who will suffer the most are the employees and customers in the small rural towns with post offices.
CUPW members who voted for this strike are not looking long term, and if they are that unhappy with what they already have, they can always look for another job.
Not understanding why Canada Post just handed over the rest of their business to Amazon ??- NO bailouts should be given them like Air Canada either. Run your business like the rest of the delivery companies (who can successfully manage this somehow unlike Postal workers) If you are not adapting to the world everchanging just shut your doors now.
Canada Post is a public crown corporation while Air Canada is a fully privatized corporation since 1989. It doesn’t make sense to compare the two when speaking about bailouts.
As I member of a union I respect anyone’s right to strike. I believe that the striking members would have possibly had more support from the public had they delivered packages that had already been sent. I received notification that my eyeglasses had been dropped off at a post office in Vancouver and then the strike started the next day. Had I known, I would have had my glasses delivered some other way and paid for the difference. There are a large number of items being held somewhere that are of great importance to people (ie: medical equipment, medication, passports, etc.). I can’t imagine spending thousands of dollars for a trip during Christmas but not being able to go because our passports are stuck somewhere. I, personally, have already paid for my eyeglasses and really don’t want to have to pay for more. I believe that delivering what had already been sent would have been, at the very least, a little kinder. Even when the strike ends, I wonder if these items will even make it to their rightful owners??
I agree with those who say it is selfish, and I not just saying that because I was supposed to get a christmas present, I’m saying this because the people in Pickle Lake, ON rely heavily on Canada post. As a receptionist in the clinic up here, it is soo frustrating not being able to get supplies that we need, or to not be able to send out bloodwork and samples that we need to get to the lab that is three hours away. We have patients that also get medication through the mail, and haven’t been receiving it since the strike started. Not everyone can afford to travel out to get groceries. I hope this strike ends soon, and I hope the next time, the union isn’t so inconsiderate of the smaller communities in the North.
All things must pass. Canada Post your time draws nigh! Thanks for all your years of service to our country. Enjoy the upcoming festive season and may the New Year bring you continued employment and happiness in your “chosen” field of employment. It just may be time to move on?
All things must pass. Canada Post your time draws nigh! Thanks for all your years of service to our country. Enjoy the upcoming festive season and may the New Year bring you continued employment and happiness in your “chosen” field of employment. It just may be time to move on?
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Old cartoon about the BC NDP governement:
Caption is in a effort to increase egg production showing the premier strangling a chicken.
Sound familiar.
This was bound to happen. I echo lot of comments here. In this growing and changing world Canada Post needs to be realistic. There are lots of jobless people ready to take the employment with minimum or no benefits and a regular monthly pay.
Our small business clients have mostly shifted to e transfer, EFT & Wire payments and only a very few “mail” cheques. I have opted for email correspondence in most of my transactions which is easier.
Canada Post has to evaluate the scenario in real times
How selfish can Canada Post be to do a strike so close to Christmas they’re like the Scrooge’s that just ruined Christmas for millions of Canadians they’re greedy and should be ashamed of themselves Canada Post workers already make more money than most hard labor workers in Canada not to mention their benefits are unbelievable how greedy can you be. I hope Karma hits them as hard as they hit everyone else for Christmas completely despicable I’m disgusted the liberal government should force them back to work
I agree Aaron; Lets not forget about all the small business that use Canada Post Services for Black Friday and pre-Christmas deliveries. Canadians use to care about one another. I vote that Canada Post no longer calls its employees “Canada Post Employees”. I don’t want the name Canada in the same sentence , with such greed, selfishness, and utter disregard for other people and struggling business owners. What goes around comes around. Always has and probably always will.
goes to show how needed they are… and why they have such bargaining power – they are essential for small business success and I commend them for not backing down. Canada Post needs to look at their administrative costs and perhaps the CEOs and upper management can take a pay cut, or maybe forgo their huge bonuses year after year, to help alleviate their so-called losses. The letter carriers are not the ones who got them into this ‘mess’, but they will be the ones to get them out of it through their hard work.
Canada Post is not striking CUPW which is just one union with CP is striking
Canada Post is not striking, CUPW, which is just one union with CP is striking. Not all CP employees are selfish and MANY of us do not agree with this strike. I need my job and this strike may affect that and I am not even on strike, so how is that fare?
Hmmm where do you see that the workers are already paid more then most hard laborers? Because any LC or RSMC i have come across including myself doesn’t make anywhere near what a laborer does. I have been on my route and enjoying it for 10 years without a single pay. While everyone else’s jobs get pay raises every year or two. As for benefits, yup they have good benefits but we also pay into those benefits. They aren’t just given to us. It actually comes off our paycheck every single time. So ya if we are paying for it then we deserve it. You should look into what the corp just gave themselves as bonuses this year and oh how about what all the upper people make each year! Now we’re talking. That’ll make your temperature rise high. Simple fix is if Canada post themselves started with getting new people that weren’t greedy money hungry overpaid up there people. Cut their pays in half, bet the story would be different then.
They should not be allowed to strike at Christmas time
I agree. And so do most of the workers that are on strike. But with the way the whole thing works from the time talks start to where they decide to strike or get locked out, just seems it is always right around the last 3 months of the year.
I support fair wages and meeting the cost of living. I support ones right for better living. But you lose my support for not fulfilling packages and letters that have already been in the system. Stop operation of new mail and packages during your strike but you should have fulfilled outstanding mail. All you are accomplishing with the way you have exercised your right to go on strike is to loose the support of us your client. I’m disabled and I am trying my hardest to make a sustainable living. In order to do that I am expecting some crucial items that have been in transit but now are in a truck somewhere…..who knows when I will get them if I even do get them.
Artificial intelligence workers take over.
No more strikes.
Right, because AI can physically deliver mail now? And, mass job loss due to use of AI is good for who exactly? Are you even thinking about the social and economic implications of your statement?
Many people need jobs. Don’t most canada post employees make 20+ an hour plus benefits and pay into a pension? What about health benefits? They seem to have it better than most jobs. So anyone that isn’t happy can find a new job and I’m sure many people would love to take yours…..
So you want most of the country just at minimum wage? Canada Post delivers important tax documents, medications, passports and even human remains. So you are okay with a minimum wage labor doing these tasks?
Canada Post is toast. I don’t remember last time we used it. Reminds me of rotary dial phones .
Canada Post leaves a lot of money on the table.
Delivery people walk up to my mother’s door with a “You can pick up your parcel at the post office tomorrow” card in hand. She’s home, and at the door, but she gets told that the delivery driver didn’t even have her package in the truck. She doesn’t drive, so I have to go pick up her packages. Small wonder she usually doesn’t order stuff delivered by Canada Post anymore. Amazon thanks you.
So maybe actually deliver parcels, and more people will pay you to do it. Maybe pull back from community mailbox delivery, go back to mailbox service, and people will use that service more, particularly in urban areas, where you have more competition, compete by having at least as good service. Small rural communities don’t get the attention of the courier companies, it’s hard to keep them earning their pay. Canada Post, too. As a taxpayer, I would like Canada Post to be able to earn its keep, but recognize that in order to guarantee service, maybe it can’t always turn a profit.
Just shut it all down. At this point the country will just move more quickly towards paperless and the other delivery companies will take over the rest. Such an unproductive entity like CP does not deserve to survive. The country will move on. I have, a long time ago.
FYI Canada Post owns Purolator,who makes millions and millions of dollars a year almost a mirror image of Canada Post,only Canada post has so called losses. Seems a little suspect to me. They have built huge processing plants for parcels for both companies invest billions of dollars in each company. All along claiming that they are bleeding money. If parcel volumes are eroding so much,why are they investing so much money into a company that is so-called bleeding money?
Hi BP, I work for Canada Post, so I’ll try my best to answer your questions! Canada Post services remote locations of the country, taking financial losses to do so. Purolator primarily operates in urban areas where it is the most profitable. You are right that Canada Post has been making huge investments; they invested $480 million in a new parcel processing plant in Etobicoke in 2023 and have millions of dollars of unused vehicles sitting in parking lots across the country. They claim these investments as a ‘loss’ so the public will feel like they can’t afford to pay their employees. Parcel volumes are up across the board but Amazon has taken up the majority of that parcel business by responding quickly to the increase in volume brought on by the pandemic, and by delivering for less money by paying their workers less than their competitors (CP, UPS, FedEx, etc.). Canada Post should have built their parcel processing plant in 2020 or 2021, but they are poorly managed and did not respond to the obvious shift in parcel volumes brought on by the pandemic. My current pay from Canada Post is $23/hour after 2.5 years. My friend works for UPS and he’s making almost $35/hour after working their for 5 years. He doesn’t have a pension plan with UPS, so that is the trade-off of UPS vs. Canada Post. Let me know if you have any other questions and I’ll try to answer them as best I can 🙂
Hey BP. There are several smaller companies that deliver for less than Canada Post. Unfortunately. they only have outlets ( to drop off packages ) in heavily populated area’s. This will grow as many small business “like myself” are wanting their service outside of major cities. It will not be long before Canada Post only delivers too far north remote area’s. If you thought Canada Post lost money in the past , just wait till they lose all the heavily populated area’s and are only left with rural area’s that they must service ,by law. What goes around comes around. Get ready to move out of the way.
Canada post does not own Purolator, they are separate corporations with the federal government being the majority shareholder for both corporations. Purolator stated at the beginning along with their union that they would not be taking shipments from Canada Post due to the necessity of crossing a picket line which is against the law here in Canada. If Canada Post did own Purolator then this distancing of the two corporations would not happen.
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Yes, Canada Post Corporation owns 91% of Purolator:
Ownership: Canada Post owns 91% of Purolator, while Rainmaker Investments Ltd. owns 7% and other parties own 2%.
History: Canada Post became the majority shareholder of Purolator in 1993.
Sale of SCI Group: In March 2024, Canada Post and Purolator sold SCI Group Inc. (SCI) to Metro Supply Chain Inc. SCI is a third-party logistics (3PL) provider that offers warehousing fulfillment, supply-chain solutions, and transportation management.
Canada post is an over managed monstrosity. Like the old Fed ex commercials with a dozen management sitting around and cannot figure out how to get a parcel delivered. CUPW just wants a living wage. Canada post has tried weekend delivery and was only sustainable in Toronto. majority of the staff will be part time. Very expensive pipe dream and not feasible.
Steve you are bang on; 4300 managers for 55000 workers is ridiculous. Annual pay for management is $345 million PLUS bonuses. Bonuses continue to be paid despite ‘heavy losses.’
Don’t strike when the company is losing money. Wait until the business is profitable, then demand better pay and conditions. Striking for higher pay when the business is losing will accelerate the downfall of the business and guarantee loss of jobs. If unhappy, when company is losing, just jump ship. Go to UPS, FedEx, DHL, Purolator, Amazon, etc.. and do it quietly. That’s the smart move. You cannot squeeze more juice out of an orange after all the juice has already been rung our of the flesh.
Overpaid workers wanting more money very sad!
Go fly a kite buddy, go do their work for one week, your balls will shrink and you will shut your pie hole with your ignorant clearly idiotic useless arrogant sarcastic useless brain
Get back to work. They may not be overpaid but that doesn’t mean hard working people that ordered product and now can’t get it because they are being selfish
You only know a small portion of the story My friend, do a search online for the Canada Post executives, there are thousands of them collecting huge bonus checks despite the company supposedly bleeding money. Any other companies executive team would be completely fired if they were losing as much as they are saying. Look at their Investments including the half a billion dollar processing plant. Please know the entire facts!
Get back to work! Typical response from entitled AH CP workers that feel that punishing anyone for what they want is justified. Holding the country hostage at Christmas is disgusting… and if the job is so hard, and it doesn’t work for you… quit and get something better (like we all do in that case). You and the company you work for… pathetic loser! Canada Post needs to go away, and you all need to lose your jobs.
Check facts before making a comment like that
Why won’t they look at the corporate office to shed some fat….I bet those guys don’t make $25/h
Good point Art; 4300 managers for 55000 workers. Annual pay for management is $345 million PLUS bonuses. Bonuses continue to be paid despite ‘heavy losses.’ CEO makes $450,000 / year…
Just forcw them back to work so i can get my credit card
CANADA NEEDS TO PAY THE LOUSY 1 OR 2 BILLION FROM NOW ON TO KEEP THE MAIL SERVICE AS A VITAL SERVICE – LIKE MEDICAL, YOU CANNOT HAVE A SERIOUS COUNTRY WITHOUT THE CLASSIC MAIL SERVICE THAT ALL COUNTRIES ENJOY. CANADA WASTES BILLIONS ON OTHER NONSENSE…THIS CAN BE FIGURED OUT.
Good point Shane, Canada Post is indeed a service, not a for-profit business. People have a hard time seeing it that way because it has been profitable for so long. Other companies don’t operate in rural/remote areas because it is not profitable. Canada Post does, because it is a service provided to all Canadians. Unfortunately it’s hard for people living in urban centers to see it this way.
I am amazed at how many people are ready to trash Canada Post employees for simply trying to get realistic wages and working conditions. Let’s recall the stories we’ve all heard about the extremely poorly paid Amazon workers who had to pee in bottles so Jeff Bezos could avoid paying any taxes at all by continually investing into his company to increase his market share. That’s the corporate ideal you are promoting?
When union workers get paid more it helps non union workers get improved pay and benefits. Everybody benefits.
There is a lot of good information in these comments and if you aren’t just a nasty troll perhaps you might take the time to read some of them and you can learn what the real issues are. And it might interest you to know that the union has strongly advocated for additional and viable services for Canadians, like providing banking services in rural areas that don’t currently have a bank in their community but do have a post office. This would have provided a new revenue stream for Canada Post, who is always screaming that they are broke and getting broker. Yet, although they initially moved forward with Canada Post banking, they suddenly dropped it, along with all of the revenue they would have gained. I think Canada Post’s attempt to achieve weekend delivery would be successful if they were planning to provide weekend workers the same pay and benefits that the week day workers receive. But no, they want to pay weekend workers less and offer them less benefits.
Canada Post has to change. But one of the biggest changes that needs to occur must happen at the management level. Why are so many supervisors getting huge pay checks plus bonuses from a company that claims it isn’t making any money? You wouldn’t believe the ridiculous bureaucracy, as another example, that occurs in Canada Post. They need to try investigating these options and more and submit them to cost management, instead of constantly trying to take it out of the pockets of hard working individuals.
This article is so slanted and misleading it never should have been published.
Thank you!
Thank you for posting an intelligent response. The trolls get exhausting. Ignorance and lack of knowing what happens behind the scenes can sure make it seem like it’s the workers.
Boundaries protect a person.
Boundaries protect people in a union.
When those Boundaries are impeded on, it’s time to take a stand. No matter who it is.
GOD BLESS YOU, KEEP YOU SAFE AND HAPPY FOREVER MORE. AAMEN.. YOU SEE THE TRUTH FOR WHAT IT IS EXACTLY AS IT IS.
Thanks Michelle, your empathy and insight is greatly appreciated! I did the math for management salaries recently ; 4300 managers for 55000 workers. Annual pay for management is $345 million PLUS bonuses. Bonuses continue to be paid despite ‘heavy losses.’ CEO makes $450,000 / year…
Which I am to understand is more than our PM.
Canada Post are dinosaurs in the delivery world for example I live in rural southern Alberta if I order From Amazon it can take up to 20 days to have a package delivered to me because it ends up in Canada Posts hands if I get it delivered to an Amazon deliverable address it’s there the next day….
As for the useless CUPW union after customers have their passports,drivers license, packages and any other important documents held hostage for your gain especially this close to the holidays if you don’t think we would ever allow this to happen again you’re wrong . You just shot yourself in the foot your jobs are going to disappear.
Get a brain! Canada post isn’t holding your parcels ransom..it’s a strike..during covid and the 7% inflation workers were locked into 2% raises while everyone else got big raises including the minimum wage.nothing in..nothing out! That’s what a strike is about
No John you are absolutely wrong! They are holding our parcels hostage! The should have delivered parcels and mail that was IN THE SYSTEM at the very least! Then go on strike! Now our parcels and important mail is sitting God knows where. How you think this isn’t holding our parcels ransom is ludicrous! Plain and simple.
I have a question…. my Brother-in-Law is a Canada Post Delivery guy… has been for years. He has teased me for years that he makes way more money than i do and only has to work 3-4 hours a day normally (I work in the Trades). He gets paid for 8 Hours. He gets every holiday off and has good benefits and pension. Last year they increased the size of his route. Now he works 5 hours a day and gets paid for 8! You should have been at that family bbqe when he told everyone. He told me as soon as there was a strike vote…. he would be the first to walk out! so here is the question…. does he deserve a raise when he already makes a lot for not working full-time hours? can i get a job at Canada Post??
Asking for a friend
At canada post.he.s getting paid for the route he covers whether it’s 4 hrs or 8 hrs…if he is always done early his route will likely keep getting bigger! Also there are some keeners who race through their routes and even jog the entire 25km daily. I know plenty of delivery guys at canada post who take 10 or more hrs daily just to finish it and then get reprimanded after for taking too long! Looking for a job at canada post..be careful what you ask for!
Nate you make some good points! Your B-I-L is coming from the good old days of mailman life, which are quickly disappearing. Just some perspective that will hopefully offer some insight; your brother has a lot of seniority so he gets to bid on the best routes, which can usually be finished the fastest. However those routes are getting fewer and further between. They just completely restructured all the Winnipeg routes and now most walking routes are 28-30k steps. That’s about 4.5-5 hours of fast walking every day when there’s no snow on the ground. I’d say about 10-15% of workers are finishing within 5-5.5 hours total (3.5-4 hours of walking and 1.5 hours for driving/organizing/preparing flyers). In the winter those ‘good routes’ will stretch out to 6-6.5 hours. Almost all CP letter carriers just hustle all day and don’t take their breaks so they can finish early (we are supposed to take a 30min lunch break and two 10 minute coffee breaks). It’s basically the culture of the job to skip breaks and finish as soon as you can. I’m not sure what the culture of the trades is, but I’m guessing it’s not quite the same. Going for a lunch break is probably status quo, but perhaps not, I honestly don’t know? I’ve been working at CP for 2.5 years now and I’m used to walking 20-25k steps a day. Honestly walking 28-30k steps is really rough on your body. Once I hit 22-23k steps my body is done with walking. I’m 44 and I don’t think I can do this job for another 20 years to collect my pension. I actually have been considering going into the trades even though I’m a certified school teacher. As far as the wage negotiations go, inflation has gone up by 20.6% since CPs last contract in 2018. CUPW put off contract negotiations during the pandemic on good faith that CP would do right by them since they were essential workers going to work every day when lots of people were allowed to work from home. I honestly think a lot of CP workers would be pretty happy if we were offered a 15-18% raise instead of the 11.5% being offered. Hopefully this insight helps, I certainly appreciate your perspective and hopefully you appreciate mine 🙂
move up to Walking fast that’s about 4.5-5hours of walking for most people, plus you have drive times, prepping flyers, organizing your mail/parcels, etc.
You have set route as a delivery person. If you give more volume for efficient workers you’re effectly punishing them for being ahead. It is incentive. In time of writing this they are currently giving the letter carriers longer routes to deliver. It was bad, now it’s worse. Volume varies so there will be periods where they often work longer than 8 hours and still won’t keep up. There are the off times you will have dead volume days, but you still have to deliver to each household. Yes, the notorious admail doesn’t stop being delivered. Most delivery people won’t (and usually don’t) stop to take their breaks or lunch. You get reprimanded pretty nastily in front of your coworkers for going into overtime. It’s a dream if there was such an route that was only 4 or 5 hours long! Where is your friend based in? Your friend has either a really low volume route or is extremely good, or both. As far as I’m aware it’s no different for other delivery companies. If they finishx they’re done. No reason to send them back out. Otherwise you encourage laziness and people stretching their day and they may even, dare Insay, take their lunch and breaks! Starting wage is about 19 an hour. That’s barely above minimum wage where I’m located. Far too stressful to justify it. There were ex-Amazon delivery drivers that did the letter carrier training and quit during the on-the-job training. Construction (which I still hate) was waaaay easier than this. If anything above is doubtful to you, Canada Post is readily hiring delivery agents and lettercarriers.
Feel free to enroll and tell us how easy and overpaid it is! I’m not joking seriously try it and see if I’m lying. I don’t know how it is for rural areas but I know urban is no cake walk.
That being said: Things I would change is have both weekend delivery, and evening delivery where the customer can choose. It’s a waste of time delivering during work snd school hours. Most of the time no ones home, and no one likes waiting in line to pick up their item.
Times might have been easy when it used to just be letters but I tell you, parcels are no joke when you have such limited time to deliver.
i literally hate canada post. i carefully check when i buy things online and if they use canada post i WILL NOT buy it, under any circumstances. i have never once had canada post deliver a package. they leave a notice to collect on my door without knocking, every time. ive seen them on camera with package in hand, walk up to my door, stick the notice and leave still holding my stuff… when its ready to pick up, DAYS LATER, theyre rude and argue with me about my ID, just to give me my package anyway.
theyre overpaid and they dont provide a valuable service whatsoever. keep striking until you all starve for all i care, GOOD RIDDANCE.
The blame is in corporate policy. They won’t allow your delivery person to leave it at the door due to porch piracy and other legal liabilities. There are some exceptions but as a general rule your delivery person would rather leave it at your door the way Amazon or UPS and be done with it. Bringing it back to the depot is double handling and time consuming for not just the delivery driver but the customer like you. They have only a couple of minutes to deliver per door. If it took 5 minutes per door, that’s only 12 parcels an hour, they get much more than that to deliver. Not including the mail itself or travel time. We want to offer a better service but corporate policy makes it monumentally ridiculous. If it were up to me you can pick what time of day works best and you can have the option of weekend and evenings. Or simply a drop off with a photo (like the private companies do).
CPC Insider you are doing the lord’s work here educating people – thank you!!!
WOW…. lots of information and misinformation from both sides of the fence. i have yet to see any business with a connection to gov’t not be top heavy… and unfortunately, these top people get big bonuses. BUT that is the same in every large organization.
The reason for moving to electric vehicles isn’t a Canada Post decision per se… it is a liberal fed govt decision that a crown corporation must follow. crazy crazy but that might change soon.
I wish there was an awesome solution where everyone gets what they want…. in a perfect world, that might be possible but guess what…. we are still paying way too much at the pumps… too much in the grocery store…. etc etc etc
maybe both sides should give a bit so i don’t have to buy my grandchildren their presents on Amazon and have them shipped straight to them… kinda kills the local stores i usually shop at….
i don’t have the answer…. but i do think Greed is the culprit…. on both sides…
Cheers
A Concerned Canadian
We have been GIVING AND GIVING AND GIVING FOR 8 YEARS… do you know that, NO you don’t cause life goes on easily for you without you having a clue and worrying about anything… GIVE? TALK TO John Hamilton the crooked crook sitting at top with his goonies about GIVING. They collect $50k bonuses on the backs of those that are making your life easier and for absolutely nothing.. so how is that food for though before you say give a little, how much would you like, we given arms, legs and everything, life too?
I find it interesting to see the comments from some CUPW members on this platform. The realization has not occured to them that this strike will end up with these employees loosing their jobs in the end. The number of companies and customers who have already walked away and those who have yet to walk away will remove any revenue that will continue to pay those employees.
Eventually if the revenue falls too low Canada Post will fail and be privatized like it has been in other countries. They will then have destroyed their own jobs. I do not speak about any of this without experience, read into this as you wish.
Greed is an awful thing…. they don’t know how to see what they have.
Just changed my bills to o
nline today. That was the majority of mail delivered to the community box for me. Soon obsolete but keep pickets going till you don’t have work
Canada Post has a large number of generously paid executives who have failed repeatedly to help the corporation break even. Fire some of the underperforming fat cats at the top before making the union out to be the rats demanding more from a sinking ship. Frankly, it’s unsurprising negotiations have failed if someone anywhere close to the top thought this corporate propaganda was worth publishing. It shows how entirely closed to compromise the overpaid execs are. The only thing I would say negatively about the union is that they should have realized that striking so close to Christmas would weaken their position as the public would turn against them. They should have waited until the post-Christmas return season. The disruption would have annoyed people but it would seem less Scrooge/The Gringe.
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WOW most of you have been misinformed, the media doesn’t tell all the truth. Actually they always make it sound like the employees are the greedy ones. When the fact is Canada post wasted mega money buying those big expensive trucks they didn’t need for all delivery drivers across Canada. At least $80,000 a truck. Also did you know that the CEO of Canada post makes more money than our prime minister? All executives and management will still get their bonuses. You people have no idea what the real truth is. We don’t make the kind of money that you think we do. UPS makes more money than Canada Post workers do. Every pay check I received was manipulated by management to constantly rip you off. Sure they have good benefits, but they are currently suspended and they are trying to take everything away. Also your tax dollars do not pay our wages. We are a service.
An obsolete and poorly delivered service. UPS and Amazon do everything Canada Post does better when it comes to parcels. Letters? What letters do most of us receive anymore? LOL – you overplayed your hand and will reap the consequences for your hubris.
Good riddance to your inevitable demise.
LOL no they don’t. Private companies do not deliver to all of Canada because some places are simply unprofitable. UPS does not deliver to rural areas with PO boxes for example
Canada Post is MANDATED to deliver to ALL of Canada regardless of profitability. If you think private companies will do the same then you’re delusional.
You realize you just said that taxpayers don’t pay your wages because you are a service but being a service means that the taxpayers pay your wages that’s what a service is, you get paid by the government, where do you think that money comes from?
Hey R.J., Here’s some information that will hopefully shed light on things 🙂 Canada Post has yet to receive any taxpayer money to date. It has been profitable up until about 6 years ago. CP’s stockpiled profits have been enough to float them through the last 6 years of losing money without needing any taxpayer dollars, but they are basically at the end of that money now. A huge part of the reason why it is no longer profitable is because of heavy losses in remote and rural areas that other companies will not deliver to (FedEx, Amazon, UPS, etc.). If Canada Post continues being a service to all Canadians, they will likely need some funding from the federal government (tax payers) going forward. It’s hard for Canadians to view CP as a service that will need to be (partially) paid for because it was profitable for so long.
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Union may be responsible for many wrong doings against workers but losses cannot be attributed to Union or Workers. It is solely a responsibility of Management as they are in charge of all the operations. They draw hefty pay cheques, perks, bonuses, as a right but HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY. What corrective action Management has ever taken to mitigate or reduce losses? What action they took to improve business if letter mail was disappearing? None. We have more than 1000 very highly paid officers to run the corporation unfortunately they only doing meetings and blaming each other and not producing any positive results for the Corporation. Corporation has tons of Revenue but incompetency of the executives is causing wasteful expenditures which does not contribute to improve efficiency or equipment. Most of the equipment is old and obsolete, why was a fund not created for new technology? This Crown Corporation is not just a company but is a Status Symbol for Canada too. Corporation needs an innovative minds to reestablish itself.
I agree, too far apart. I use Canada Post wherever possible but I think the union might be destroying itself. Most people aren’t getting an increase that would cover inflation. Striking over Christmas can create enemies. Get a mediator and take what you get. After Christmas Canada Post might not need you.
I wish you could get cost of living but it simply isn’t going to happen this year.
A mediator has been put in place. We’ve been in negotiations with CPC for close to 2 years.
I think the Canada Post strike is insensitive and uncalled for It is just taking people hostage.Worse than terrorism. Why would you collect parcel already paid for into your system and close the system?
A more rational thing to do is to stop receiving new mails and push out the ones there.Why should people be stranded whose passports are in the mail.
Will hospitals workers be striking and shut the doors against patients from leaving to access care elsewhere? This is what canada post is doing.
I thought canada post is a reliable and right thinking group managed by top notched eeg heads otherwise why would I use it.
I suggest both parties shift grounds.
There is no way one party will have all its demands met.It should be a win-win situation.
Shift ground and resume work.Otherwise release our docume t to us, why should we suffer for what we knew nothing about.
2. I actually think the federal mediator should do more. Arbitrate on these issues , there is no need prolonging the strike , moving in cycle while nothing is done.
3. I donot see where union will also be fighting for people not employed.
Pls call.of we are tired.
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Force them back to work that will teach them for ruined Christmas
Maybe the postal people on strike should get the law more involved at the end of the strike and clean house !
As far as I am concerned, postal workers are already very well paid. Let’s strike Christmas is coming, throw a screwing into everybody that have ordered gifts to be delivered by mail. More and more people are turning away from sending and receiving stuff through Cabada Post. I have only one bill that still comes by mail but as of tomorrow, I will have none. I have 6 packages stuck in the mail somewhere. This is the last time. Once people stop using Canada Post, you will all be out in the cold. Enough already, get back to work. Go on strike in the summer where you will not ruin peoples Christmas and where you won’t freeze half to deaf. Regardless, I won’t be using Canada Post any longer if it is anyway possible, can’t tryst that the workers will be there to do the job they are very well paid for.
A national postal service is an important piece of the infrastructure of a country. It is not a for profit business, nor should it be expected to be one. It is a service provided to the citizens of a country and is paid for by taxes. Stamps and other user fees are offsets, but a nation is weakened by not having it own means of delivering items and communications by mail.
The service is not paid for by anyone’s taxes. The company does not get paid by the government. Revenue is generated by stamps,parcels, flyers.
We are not paid by government money (taxes). We are our own company. If we don’t sell product and/or services we can shut down.
If you look at the contract it requires overime/extra hours to be offered to a full time employee at overtime rates by seniority. To me that is fiscally irresponsible, breeds unproductive behavior and is a safety concern. Remove having to give overtime to someone who’s already worked a full shift and let part time people pick up extra hours etc and let’s see what the books look like.
Shut down the post office; there are better services available right now. Canada Post often uses this situation to justify wage increases, which is unfair. It doesn’t make sense that Canada Post is making more money than other jobs.
Canada post is irrelevant. Like some one suggested they should have a workforce of 15000.Cant even deliver mail to a correct address, all I get is junk mail and flyers.let them stay out longer.
No one gets a 24% wage increase. You are cutting your own throats with this strike. It is absolutely the beginning of the end. If you want your workplace to remain viable accept a reasonable settlement go back to work and be grateful you dodged an. inevitable bullet.
24% over 4 years, know your facts
Its obvious from the posts here… majority of don’t feel for you… we want you to go back to work!
$30 an hour is a good-paying job!
Its more then I make!!
And btw, we’re all struggling!
You admit you did this at the worst time of year in order to have more leverage… to hell with us, right?!
As somebody said in an earlier comment…
all you’re doing is creating enemies, not going to garner any sympathy!
Merry Christmas u jackasses!
You knew what the job was when you signed up for it!
Your lucky your not in Healthcare they got 2% n sometimes wage freezes and our work was both physically n mentally exhausting Bad thing is we have to take whatever since we can’t strike
i get ppl r scared about missing payments in the mail, but thats kind of why its good to do this stuff online….
If canada post was a private company they would be bankrupt by now and with all their losses?? get real a d then God you have a job and benefits get a life , postage is to expensive I don’t use them I use email and e transfers
I was completely behind the union until I saw the company losses. How the hell can you expect to get your demands met when the company has lost 3.5 billion dollars since 2018???? Time to smarten up. Be fair. Or eventually there will be less and less jobs for you until they disappear completely. Best apply to UPS Amazon. Is that really what you want??
Please have a look at some of the counter arguments on other sites. The “losses” CP is claiming are, in fact, investments that have been made to build a new sorting depot, as well as their fleet of hybrid vehicles. Investments are meant to cost money until they start paying for themselves. If the company was so hard up, how do they find the funds to provide exorbitant bonuses to the execs? The CEO makes $450k salary, and receives a bonus of $500k. I don’t know any company that can lose $3.5 billion in 6 years and not lay off anyone responsible for the decisions that got them there in the first place. While COVID certainly sped up the online and delivery business, the parcel surge should have been forecasted at least a decade ago so as to keep the lion’s share of the parcel delivery revenue. They did not. Instead, their investments in the modernizing of the company came far too late. Add to that the execs’ insatiable greed for a service that is meant to be for the public, not profit, and you end of up with a skewed accounting of “losses”. They have the money, and we have the will and desire to work. We simply want to be respected for the job we do, and, in mine and many others cases, a job we love.
It’s because they deliver to nonprofitavle markets. They have to. Lettermail is a constitutional right and as such deserves to be funded by tax payers. As long as you have the right to mail they’ll have the expense of delivering it. This ecpense should not be paid for on the banks of the union members.
All I know is you picked this time of year. To hold people’s letters and packages already in your system and paid for by users who trusted the system hostage during the highest demand time of the year. Smacks of bs, and its not the first time either. Its an essential goverment run canadian right. They should force you back to work. Then start highering people who would love to have a job at canada post and apprecite the job they have. Your just sticking the knife in really deep to do this now. Kids cant even write to Santa.:(
Hi Conan, I’m a letter carrier with Canada Post. I agree this is a terrible time of year for the strike! I think the union picked it because they thought it would give them leverage to negotiate a contract quickly. I don’t think they anticipated CP being so unwilling to budge on their offer and things dragging out like this. It feels really bad to be letting down our customers, especially at this time of year. I really want to go back to work, as I’m sure so do 99% of my coworkers.
I’m in Manitoba and we are still accepting letters to Santa and responding to them despite the strike. I’m not sure where you are, but hopefully they are doing that across the country. Letters are being accepted at the locations where workers are picketing, I imagine that will be the case where you live. No one feels good letting down kids, so we are volunteering to still provide this service. Most people do love having a job at Canada Post, but we are fighting for a liveable wage that keeps up with the ridiculous inflation over the last 6 years since our last contract (20.6%). Also, 90% of new hires quit CP within the first year because the job is too difficult. Just trying to offer some perspective that hopefully is helpful, we are all hoping this strike ends as soon as possible!
The loss the Canada Post claim is not true. If the corporation says mail and parcel volumes are dropping, why the company built a huge facility in Scarborough for parcels and electric vehicles for mail delivery. Also why “fat” bonuses were paid if the company posting a loss. Those who sweat don’t get fair treatment from corporation.
Canada Post spent 750+million dollars on a plant in the east and a billion on useless vehicles that spend half the time in the shop for various malfunctions. They claimed that these were “losses”, when in actuality they “invested” this money in themselves. There’s so many more things you are wrong about but I don’t have time to argue with people who only “research” what they want to be true and not facts.
Settled the negotiations immediately. We’re not a bag of chips.
At this time employees have a higher per hour average than their competitors. I stopped using Canada post for packages a few years ago. You employees have better benefits than your competitors also. Get off the pot. Any increase is better than what you will be making on EI
You can AT LEAST offer them a wage increase to compensate them for inflation since their last contract. Also, NO to non-CP contracted workers to beef up staff for weekend delivery, if you insist on having it. Lastly, CP Service is an ESSENTIAL service, and it should not be expected to make a profit, any more than ambulances or medical services
Canada post did counter with wage increase of 11% over 4 years. The union wants 24% over 4 years.
A minimum of 22% is required to get us up to par with inflation. To ask for 24% and get a counter of 11.5% is a slap in the face, especially when they are also attempting to eliminate some of the full time positions in favor of part time. In addition, the part time hours they’re offering also come with a requirement to be available for additional hours. How is someone supposed to live on part time hours without getting a second job to compensate? And how does that person find another part time job without having enough hours of availability bc CP needs them to available to them whenever they need you? This does not take into account maintaining some kind of work-life balance.
The inflation increase since their last pay increase was 20.66%. An 11% raise over four years wouldn’t even be giving them the same as they were making in 2018.
Welcome to Canada, nobody is making wages on pay with inflation. Get real.
exactly!
I have found that the service is not reliable. Important letters not delivered as address non deliverable even though I have lived here for 7 years , delivered to wrong building . Delivery person must pay attention to the address !
As a Senior , have no need for daily postal delivery . All I get is junk mail !
Well, I am now boycotting getting ANY packages or important mail through Canada Post because this has severely impacted my ability to take care of my children as I rely heavily on my local post for important documentation, forms, and checks for my special needs children. I don’t want to hear these workers complain when it’s not them that are struggling to make ends meet in this economy, the ENTIRE COUNTRY is struggling and CP strike is making things more difficult and stressful than necessary in a detrimental time for families and businesses across the country. Shame on the lot of them.
That wasn’t meant to be a reply to the lovely senior citizen’s comment! lol my bad!
This strike was absolutely handled terribly. It’s completely ignorant and unprofessional for the strike to be implemented as it was. It is messing with peoples life and money. There should never be parcels and packages stuck in transit during a strike. If I strike comes it should be implemented in a fashion where the stuff currently in transit and accepted by Canada post finishes delivery. It’s disgraceful and selfish and totally unprofessional to do what was done. And I for one will remember these actions and plan my future accordingly.
The strike was forced by the company removing all protections and rights if the workers did show up.
Hiw doea a company that has lost 3 billion dollars since 2018 and 315 million in the 3rd quarter this year demand an 11.5 per cent wage increase over the next 4 years. What am I missing here. I work in the private sector have not had a raise in 10 years have no pension and limited benefits. Let’s wake up people.
So because your job sucks you want others to get nothing either, makes sense 🤔 how about attacking the 21 vice president’s at cpc and the bonuses that they get every year ,instead of attacking the workers. A simple search would show you how much money their all making.
To strike at this time of year is criminal. Think of all the small businesses that are suffering right now. It’s hard to have sympathy when your actions are causing some businesses to go under.
That’s cpcs number’s, what they forget to mention is that they built to new giant sorting plants and spent a fortune on a new fleet of vehicles that weren’t needed, they include those investments as losses ! On top of that the 21 vice president’s with their inflated salaries and oh don’t forget all management got a nice big bonus on top ! But hey attack tje workers for asking for peanuts ! Smh 🤦
You still didn’t address the small business and people that are now suffering. You have it better than you think…
Please fix this, the postal workers deserve what they are asking for, give ot to them…
Change the wording on the proposal “After January 1,2026 retirees will be on %50 benefits”) TO “ALL EMPLOYEES that START to pay into the pension plan AFTER January 1,2026 will be eligible to have benefits at %50 AND all current employees would remain on the current retiree pension benefits package (%80) coverage. IF SSD is to be put in place- THEN ALL deliveries should be to CMB’s, the federal government will have to back away from their position about door to door deliveries-ADDING an extra 1.5 hours of walking to routes that are averaging 15 to 20 kms per day causes serious overuse injuries. I have no problem having part time, temporary, on call employees delivering parcels and packets (AO’s) on weekends the union will still collect union dues from these types of employees and the Canada Post vehicles are usually not used on weekends. RSMC and Urban employees should be classified the same and be issued Canada Post vehicles. This would cut out alot of unnecessary red tape
Subject: A Plea for Resolution: The Impact of the Canada Post Strike
Dear [Canada Post Management/CUPW],
I am writing to express my deep concern and frustration regarding the ongoing strike at Canada Post. As a Canadian citizen, I rely on the postal service for essential deliveries, including medical supplies and financial remittances.
The disruption to mail delivery is causing significant hardship for many, particularly those who rely on government assistance programs. The upcoming holiday season, a time for joy and connection, is now clouded by uncertainty and inconvenience.
I urge both parties to prioritize the needs of the Canadian public and to work collaboratively to reach a swift resolution. The withholding of mail, a fundamental service, is not only detrimental to individuals but also to the overall well-being of our communities.
I implore you to consider the impact of this strike on vulnerable populations. Many Canadians, especially those with limited financial resources, depend on timely delivery of essential documents and financial assistance.
It is imperative that both sides recognize the importance of their roles in ensuring the smooth functioning of our society. I urge you to return to the negotiating table with a renewed sense of urgency and a commitment to finding a solution that benefits all Canadians.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]
[Your Address]
Subject: A Plea for Resolution: The Impact of the Canada Post Strike
Dear [Canada Post Management/CUPW],
I am writing to express my deep concern and frustration regarding the ongoing strike at Canada Post. As a Canadian citizen, I rely on the postal service for essential deliveries, including medical supplies and financial remittances.
The disruption to mail delivery is causing significant hardship for many, particularly those who rely on government assistance programs. The upcoming holiday season, a time for joy and connection, is now clouded by uncertainty and inconvenience.
I urge both parties to prioritize the needs of the Canadian public and to work collaboratively to reach a swift resolution. The withholding of mail, a fundamental service, is not only detrimental to individuals but also to the overall well-being of our communities.
I implore you to consider the impact of this strike on vulnerable populations. Many Canadians, especially those with limited financial resources, depend on timely delivery of essential documents and financial assistance.
It is imperative that both sides recognize the importance of their roles in ensuring the smooth functioning of our society. I urge you to return to the negotiating table with a renewed sense of urgency and a commitment to finding a solution that benefits all Canadians.
Sincerely,
[Lisa Nicole Hickey]
[HIRE ME I’M ABLE AND GRATEFUL, AND READY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY! 😁🙏]
Hi Lisa,
I agree with your sentiments. I am a CP employee and I would love to return to work. But it is also essential that we use our right to strike, not only for our benefit, but also the rest of the workforce, union and otherwise. Many of the benefits that even those in the private sector enjoy (safe working conditions, no child labor, minimum wage, maternity leave) was fought for by a union. We are trying to fight fair and we are hoping CP will do the same. For now, it is a lot of smoke and mirrors and propaganda.
Also, I do want to mention that CUPW, although on strike, have agreed to deliver government cheques so as to not leave those in need in unnecessary financial hardship.
We love the communities we serve and are more than ready to get back to it once a fair deal is reached.
We appreciate everyone’s patience and support and we hope to be back to serving our amazing communities soon!
It’s great that you are still delivering government checks but what about all the mail that is stuck in the system? My kids passports and birth certificates have been ‘in transit’ since Nov 15. Looks like they made it to a sorting facility the day I mailed them but unfortunately didn’t make it to the passport office before the strike began. It’s really frustrating that there’s no way for me to get them back. I paid for a service that I didn’t get and it really lowers my sympathy for those on strike. It also makes me less likely to use CP in the future if I have any choice in the matter!
My comment needs no moderation. I challenge you to print it verbatim.
Nobody has job security. Get back to work. Your service needs major improvement and more accuracy before you ought to receive higher compensation. Your competition is more COMPETENT. GAME OVER!!
Amen! I second that
100% they don’t listen to complaints or issues and their employees often deliver packages to the wrong door.
Canada Post, this strike is likely the last straw and the beginning of the end. The last straw for millions of Canadians tired of paying higher delivery fees from a company that offers less and less quality services at less and less available times. In the modern world there are many delivery companies that can deliver more for less. This disruption is may have cost me a job. The website says the branch I needed to pick up important documents at was open and after driving 6 hours, I find a note on the door saying go to the nearest open branch which was also no help. My deadline passed and documents, which your website tracking says are available for pickup, are held hostage…thanks!! And for employees to hold out for pay increases and defined benefits!!!…. no private company offers that anymore, your greed astounds, wake up. Its time for a reality check Canada Post, end this strike, beg for forgiveness from all the Canadians you are screwing over by striking at the most important/vulnerable time of the year. Then come to the table with sincere plans to work out a realistic deal………OR,….keep up your temper tantrum and wait for parliament to order you back to work and get nothing and hopefully be replaced from the top down.
Well said
I will never use canada post moving forward!!!
Just hire some scabs. Try to break the union
Time to get away from canada post go private. We may get some real service then not like the crap we have now.
Where are the statistics on how much the corporation spent on the new parcel processing plant? Where are the stats on the new vehicle fleet the corporation spent $1 billion on?? Where are the statistics on the managerial bonuses and wages paid by the Corporation?? Where are the comments on how the Corporation promised the employees a better deal when the workers agreed to sign a 2 year extension to help the Corporation through COVID?? None of this is mentioned by the author….why??? Because Canada Post was the author. Stop with the fear mongering and blaming the workers and share the truth.
it is the holiday season upon us ……….settle this fast……as people are suffering with out their pay stuck in the mail passports donations the list is to long to write it all……..peace on earth good will toward men……
This postal strike is taking a tole on us seniors who are unable to get out to shop and has to depend on our postal service for on line shopping which has to be prepaid,and unfortunately we can’t afford to replace their orders after paying for gifts in advance.i have seven parcels tied up somewhere between nl and Toronto and don’t expect to get them before Christmas now with the amount of backlog.there will be very disappointed kids in this family this Christmas. Thank you to out postal workers who picked the very best time to strike,For Them.so thoughtful.
I 100% support the Corporation. I am a Cupw member, because I work at Canada Post. If the union can’t see that there will be no Canada Post if we keep the current business model then perhaps we shouldn’t have a union! All they are worried about is their $75 million a year that they collect in union dues.
Unions are a thing of the past…move on and let us get back to work…you know who isn’t loosing a pay cheque during this strike?! The union execs at every local!
I have been banned from Cupw social media for questioning them and speaking out against them. I just want to go back to work! And be able to pay my bills and survive
No CUPW member gets paid during a labor dispute. No local executives, or national executives period. It’s in their constitution and impossible.
Huh? I spoke to the folks at my post office and they said they were getting paid by the union during the strike.
I would hate to see an historic Crown entity like Canada Post disappear from the landscape. I have always used Canada Post for any mailings I might have, including ‘old fashion letters to my family and friends’. Canada Post service prices were always overall better than other carriers: UPS, Fed Ex, or Purolator. Most of these companies don’t even have a pickup location in my community so often delivery can be hit and miss or you spend all day waiting at home for an important delivery. For very large items, they likely are preferable, of course.
I have a very friendly Canada Post Delivery Person that I always celebrate at Christmas with a substantial gift. This employee is excellent and I would certainly miss this individual I see on a regular basis.
Canada Post Management appears to have a model of service to move on and compete in a very difficult market, and I believe there is a current reality that the 55,0000 employees are missing or do not want to comprehend. I am not saying that Canada Post is perfect either in collaborations with the union, and I would like to think both sides would be willing to save jobs and the this historic company. Waiting for other intervention from another source is sad, otherwise, what is the point in a union, but what is the point in a union that is probably living in the past.
Sincerely,
Gail
By the time you guys sort your sh*t out people are going to find and switch to other parcel delivery services and won’t need you any more! Most working Canadians don’t get any benefits and don’t make as much as you so you’ve lost sympathy from average Canadians, keep up your strike so more of us will learn how irrelevant Canadian post really is
If the union wants hire wages, tell them to get paid by the volume of parcels they delivery like other competitors do. They currently finish their days in less than 5 hours but get paid for 8 because of the mail volumes and they way routes are structured in their favour. Canada post has to offer full time employees overtime before bringing in temporary help to manage fluctuations of volumes which is not sustainable. If they are so concerned about safety, then eliminate door to door delivery to reduce the number of accidents that happen. Most accidents are slips and trips at peoples steps, encounters with animals, carrying heavy satchels on their backs and even abusive customers. All this is avoided with community mail box delivery.
It’s obvious that the government has to mandate them back to work. This is going nowhere.
Right!
I wish they would hurry up already … don’t worry about Jagmeet Singh’s empty threats… all that man does is cry wolf!
Too far apart
Need arbitrator